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January 30th, 2010
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Susan Orman on Life Insurance

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  1. bond519
    February 2nd, 2010 at 15:56 | #1

    gaddiswfg: What about all the hidden charges that cash value policies seem to always have. You are just like all the rest of the agents here that try to cover up the true face of cash value policies with words like mirroring and comparable. Why don’t you just get the real thing in the first place and forget about all the complicated crap. I have proven thousands of time that BTID will beat ANY cash value policy.

  2. inswiz
    February 3rd, 2010 at 05:08 | #2

    $75 annual income, wife, kid and mortgage and you say $1 mil is overkill?

    You are living the 80’s all over again. Keep doing you 10.5% illustrations and underinsuring middle income America.

    If your company is letting this go on, I see why so much negative about them. You better get E&O insurance if you don’t have it.

  3. gaddiswfg
    February 5th, 2010 at 12:15 | #3

    @inswiz. His cash value of over $2Mil at age 65, BTW, has grown tax free and he can take up to 90% of it out completely tax free too or he can take however much he wants out every year completely tax free for the rest of his life while it’s still earning a R.O.R. as long as at least 10% remains in the cash value which his beneficiaries get at his passing on top of the DB of $750k. We’ve delivered hundreds of DB’s last year alone. I’ve seen first hand how amazing these are. Nothing else compares

  4. dhfken
    February 5th, 2010 at 15:08 | #4

    How much % of Term pay out? Less than 1% did you know that or are you just arguing dishonestly?!!

  5. gaddiswfg
    February 8th, 2010 at 05:20 | #5

    @inswiz. Heres your G.I.U.L. quote. 35yr old male. Nonsmoker good health. $750k DB. Monthly premiums= $356. He stops paying premiums at age 65 policy stays in force for life. Cash value at age 65 is $620k. total net DB=$1,370,000. At age 70 CV is $927k. Net DB=$1,677,000. If he max funds it, monthly premiums=$1455 for first 7 years then back to $356 stopping at age 65. At 65 CV=$2,081,000, Total net DB=$2,831,000. Age 70 CV=$3,200,264. Total net DB=$3,950,264. Nearly $4mil total DB.

  6. gaddiswfg
    February 8th, 2010 at 21:00 | #6

    Well, first of all, if your 30 yr old male is a middle income person, $1 mil DB is probably overkill and since at least 10% of the cash value must remain in it according to IRC-7702 of the IRS tax code, and the beneficiaries receive both the DB & whatever cash value is there the DB doesn’t need to be as much as a term would. I’ll give you a general quote shortly. Non tobacco? Good health? I’ll assume so. I’ll base his D.I.M.E. on $750k

  7. gaddiswfg
    February 11th, 2010 at 03:51 | #7

    @inswiz. Actually, to better inform you, I.U.L’s & G.I.U.L.’s have flexible premiums and allow the policy owner to adjust their premiums as things change. They also allow the client to stop paying premiums completely at any age, like age 65 for example when they retire and the policy remains in force for life plus their cash value still grows tremendously that they can use tax free. Oh &100% of permanent policies that are in force at time of death pays out. They come with a “No Lapse Guarantee”

  8. areliusmaximus
    February 13th, 2010 at 05:11 | #8

    Where did you get that stat? I can find tons of sources backing that 2% of term insurance don’t pay out a death benefit.

  9. areliusmaximus
    February 15th, 2010 at 00:21 | #9

    Where did you get that stat? I can find tons of sources backing that 2% of term insurance don’t pay out a death benefit.

  10. gaddiswfg
    February 17th, 2010 at 20:14 | #10

    Realmente absolutamente el contrario. I' d recomienda el hechar una ojeada mejor el grupo financiero del mundo. Ponemos raramente a nuestros clientes en VUL' s a menos que el cliente quiera ser un &amp más agresivo; tome un riesgo más alto para vueltas potencialmente más altas. Pero, ponemos raramente a nuestros clientes en VUL' s. De hecho, sobre el 95% de nuestros clientes consiga G.I.U.L.' &amp de s; I.U.L.' s. También la mayor parte de nuestros agentes son seguridades autorizadas. Tenemos un cociente más alto de los agentes autorizados las seguridades de nuestros agentes 28k+ que otras compañías nuestro tamaño incluyendo Primerica.

  11. areliusmaximus
    February 19th, 2010 at 12:49 | #11

    Hay un coste del seguro que est? a parte de lo que usted puede poner en el valor de efectivo. la cobertura de $1mil pudo ser demasiada cobertura a prop?sito. Muchas veces cuando recomiendo seguro del valor de efectivo yo agregan a un jinete del t?rmino para mantener bajos costes del seguro. Eso permite que m?s incorporen su valor de efectivo.

    El fondo es t?rmino y el seguro del valor de efectivo tiene su lugar. Usted tiene que mirar cu?l es conveniente. Los planificadores financieros que toman acercamientos del galleta-cortador con sus clientes hacen una deservicio.

  12. bond519
    February 20th, 2010 at 01:50 | #12

    No dhfken, you are the only idiot that is convinced that term is terminating the prosperity of America. How many books have you sold? 3, 5, ok 10. What I find amazing is that some lop sided idiot like you only comes up with your stupid theories when economic times are not so good. Personally I think that they are great but you don’t sell that type of information. Good luck on selling 2 more books.

  13. inswiz
    February 23rd, 2010 at 10:15 | #13

    The the target and how much for the middle income.
    For 1mil 30yr term for the 10 or 20 year guarantee rate give me the middle income.

  14. inswiz
    February 23rd, 2010 at 14:25 | #14

    Do you know that only 9% of permanent policies payout. Due to what? lapses, the consumer is no longer able to afford or not comfortable with the premiums, policy did not perform as the agent told them, etc.

  15. areliusmaximus
    February 26th, 2010 at 12:38 | #15

    Did you know that only 2% of term policies end up paying out a death benefit? Trying to say that cash value insurance rips people off, but term doesn’t is so lame.

  16. inswiz
    February 27th, 2010 at 00:53 | #16

    I know the difference between IUL and VUL’s. YOur company World Financial Group has it agents push VUL. Since VUL’s became popular and many of the agents can’t pass the securities exam you guys push IUL’s.

  17. inswiz
    February 28th, 2010 at 16:18 | #17

    ¿Cuál es la tarifa de participación para su WRL GIUL?

  18. gaddiswfg
    March 1st, 2010 at 14:11 | #18

    Get your facts straight buddy! I wasn’t even referring to VUL’s. VUL’s are variable and carry a risk. I know that, being a securities registered rep. G.I.U.L.’s & I.U.L.’s are indexed products that give clients both principal and rate of return guarantees.

  19. gaddiswfg
    March 3rd, 2010 at 23:11 | #19

    @inswiz. Actually griffyn is correct. Pretty much what I was going to say.Those companies BTW are just a few that offer these vehicles.

  20. griffynelvyncraft
    March 6th, 2010 at 01:00 | #20

    ING and Pacific Life has I.U.L.’s which are also good. G.I.U.L.’s are offered from Western Reserve Life. Participation rates are extremely low and are greatly outweighed by their fantastic performance. The G.I.U.L. from WRL has a 13.25% cap. The I.U.L. from pacific life has no cap at all. Pac premiums are slightly higher than WRL but worth it because of no cap. It’s of course all going to depend on what’s best for the client and their goals. Each individual is different.

  21. inswiz
    March 6th, 2010 at 12:32 | #21

    You guys push VUL’s and IL’s so the company teaches you guys that term is temporary.

  22. inswiz
    March 8th, 2010 at 12:19 | #22

    Don' t cree el bombo Gaddis. ¿Qué compañías GIUL usted está hablando? Era inconsciente que ING vendió un producto de GIUL que podría ser incorrecto. Dígame el nombre del producto de GIUL y haré que me envíen espec. por fax.

    Los mercados pueden haber hecho un promedio de 10.5% pero la compañía controla cuánto acreditarán a valores de efectivo con los casquillos y las tarifas de participación. Usted sabe que don' ¿t usted?

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